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Chef PalladinINTERVIEW:
Chef Jean-Louis Palladin

When we talk about the subject of the world's greatest chefs, who is it that makes that determination? Is it the folks from Mobil and Michelin? Is it the critics of the Washington Post, the New York Times, or Gourmet Magazine? Is it the chef who publishes the best selling book, or runs the most commercially successful restaurant? I would suggest that it's none of the above. The truly great chefs are determined by their peers, and when so many fellow-chefs consider Jean-Louis Palladin one of the greatest of all time, it tells you all you have to know.

It frustrates me to think that in the early 90's, I spent an entire year working in Washington DC, and never once had the foresight to experience the famed 42-seat restaurant in the basement of the Watergate Hotel. In my mind, the Watergate was about Nixon, Dean, Mitchell, Ehrlichman, Hunt and Liddy. At the time, the Watergate was a symbol of what went wrong in America, and I failed to appreciate it as one of the classic restaurants of all time. Of course, the truth is that I couldn't afford to eat Jean-Louis' place although I did sit next to G. Gordon Liddy at a Burger King, and watched him fill out a customer card at the end of his meal. Only God and Burger King know what he wrote on that card. The entire Watergate thing was to become an amazing piece of history - both in a political and culinary perspective.

I ran into Jean-Louis at a Border's Bookstore in downtown Washington. He was there for a book signing, and again, I didn't have the foresight to even say hello. At that moment I wasn't thinking that right in front of me was one of the most talented and respected chefs in the world. It only took a few hours in this business to learn and appreciate the legend of the great Jean-Louis Palladin.

The Watergate proved to be an incredible 17-year run. Eventually, he opened Napa at the Rio Suite Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, and undoubtedly this decision persuaded many prominent chefs to follow his lead. Say what you will about celebrity chefs and Las Vegas, at least Jean-Louis actually worked the kitchens at Napa, and was one of the few chefs who maintained real presence in this community - and he still does.

Then there was Palladin in New York, which of course, failed rather quickly. This was a restaurant designed to present the Jean-Louis concept, but was missing one very important ingredient - Jean-Louis himself. He lent the name, but little else. This simply proved that New York and Las Vegas have very little in common, and a Jean-Louis restaurant without Jean-Louis was not about to happen in the Big Apple. Let's call it one of life's lessons.

Now, after all these years, the great chef has more important things on his mind than an unfavorable experience in Manhattan. He is battling a well-documented case of cancer, and everyone connected with our industry wishes him well. And when he gets better and finally opens that restaurant where Jean-Louis Palladin is once again living in his kitchen, and behaving like the extraordinarily talented and passionate chef that he is, I for one will make it a point to experience the true genius of this great man. In terms of this issue, I finally took advantage of the opportunity to speak with him. I consider it a great honor.

"Some of the people who come to my restaurant don't want to try anything too unusual, but I also want to be ready for those who are willing to be adventurous. It's like putting a piece by an unknown composer on the program between Bach and Beethoven. I'm very encouraged when people tell me that I have helped them learn about food"

Jean Louis: Cooking With the Seasons

RR: At the age of twenty-eight, you are the chef at La Table des Cordeliers in your hometown and the youngest chef awarded two stars by France's prestigious Michelin Guide. You were already well known and respected in France, yet shortly thereafter, you decide to leave France and come to the United States.

JL: My hometown is a small village in France, and I had an offer to come to America. It was a big opportunity for me and much too exciting to pass up.   I was young and looking for the next challenge, so this was going to be it.

RR: So you arrive in America at the Watergate Hotel in Washington, DC. What is going through your mind?

JL: The truth is that I wanted to get back on the plane and return to France. I was overwhelmed by what I saw in America. This was 1979, so we are talking about many years ago, but I saw the frozen lobster, the frozen chicken, and the snails in the can. I knew this was not acceptable. I started spending my early mornings exploring the seafood and produce markets of Washington, and I started having all kinds of fresh products delivered from all over to the restaurant. In those early days, I made a few enemies with local purveyors and other chefs, but gradually, most people came around to my way of thinking. I found the necessary ingredients, and ended up staying at the Watergate for 17 years.

RR: In terms of ingredients, it seemed that you had to go a lot further than just the DC area.

JL: It was something that I had to do, and perhaps at that time, it was a new approach to running a restaurant.  In terms of finding what I wanted, I saw my market as the world as opposed to just the local area. I got on the phone and products were flown in from everywhere. It was very time consuming, and of course, very expensive, but that thinking helped us build a truly great restaurant.

RR: Many years have past since your arrival in America. How do you see the state of food in this country today?

JL: Oh my God, there is no comparison.   Everything is so much better, and that's the way it is supposed to be. We have been educated, and our chefs are so much better, and certainly our restaurants are better. Our customers know so much more, and they expect so much more. 1979 seems like so many years ago, but when you look at the picture of food in America, we're really talking about a short period of time. The progress has been amazing, and I feel lucky to have been a part of this.

RR: When you talk about the history of restaurants in America, certainly Jean-Louis at the Watergate has to be right up there.

JL: I was a young chef from France struggling with the English language, and all of a sudden, I was preparing dinner for the President of the United States. It was so exciting, and yes, they were wonderful years. I met so many wonderful people, and I would say that we accomplished what we wanted to do. We created a truly great restaurant and kept it going for seventeen wonderful years.

RR: It is interesting to take note of how many talented people worked with you during the Watergate years, and how well so many of them have done.

JL: There were so many great people involved with me, and if I start naming names, I will forget someone. It makes me so happy to see them doing so well. They are still my friends today, and it's something that makes me very proud and extremely happy.

RR: All good things eventually come to an end, and the Watergate run ended in 1996.

JL: Over the years, there were several management changes at the Watergate, and the final one didn't work for us.   Regardless of that, it was time for me to move on. There were no regrets, but that restaurant was such a big part of me that it was difficult to leave. I left many friends in Washington, and it's always a thrill to come back and visit.

RR: Surprisingly, you went to Las Vegas.   And I say surprisingly, because that didn't seem like the proper fit for a Jean-Louis Palladin.

JL: I must admit that I would have never considered a place like Las Vegas, but this city changed so dramatically.   It became a wonderful place to live, and now people travel here to play golf and dine in our great restaurants.   It's so much more than just gambling.   The people who live here and who visit here sincerely appreciate fine dining, and you would be amazed at the quality of dining in Las Vegas - it's world class. I must tell you that so many of my buddies decided to open here, and that makes it even more interesting and definitely more fun.

RR: Could you take the Napa concept to New York, or possibly DC?

JL: No. It would take too much money to do such a thing. Without the backing of the casino, none of this could have happened.

RR: Your answer is interesting because we now see the emergence of restaurant groups and the chains becoming increasingly dominant in America. Is the restaurant business becoming determined by big money, and is the age of the so-called "little guy" coming to an end?

JL: Of course, I certainly hope that the little guy you speak of will never end, and it doesn't have to.   However, I am very concerned about this, and I predicted that somewhere along the line that many independent restaurant owners would suffer. It takes so much money to open a restaurant today, and maybe, just maybe, you have a chance to make it. The big guys have the money and the power to survive. I would hate to see the day come when it's prohibitively expensive to run a small chef-owned restaurant. It's a very frightening thought.

RR: You were so instrumental in altering the perception of food in America, and in so doing, contributing so much to our food culture. With all our progress, we have become a nation literally addicted to fast foods. What does this say about us?

JL: In my hometown of Condom in southwest France, people didn't have refrigerators, so everything we ate was fresh, and of course, this had a tremendous influence in how I approach the subject of food. I wish everyone would learn to appreciate the value of eating freshly prepared foods with quality ingredients. This is never going to happen, because people have to eat, and in many cases, it's an economic consideration. It is a shame that people are so busy that the convenience of fast foods is so appealing.   I believe that every responsible chef is concerned with this, and I will tell you that it is a major concern of mine. I'm not sure what any of us can do about it.

RR: I know your experience in New York with Palladin was not a favorable one.

JL: I believe the critics had different expectations and never understood what we were trying to do there.   Life is a learning experience, and I would certainly do it differently next time around.

RR: And now, we come down to a very difficult period in your life...

JL: I have had wonderful support from so many friends, and I have the best doctors in the world. I am working on a new book and on a new restaurant concept, so I intend to stay extremely busy.

RR: It goes without saying that all of us wish you well.




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